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Old 01-15-2006, 08:32 AM   #21
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we're talking about muslims in a marriage- men just don't do it
So it's sort of like the whole hamburger thing? Where you see the advertisement of the hamburger and man...it looks so awesome and juicy and you're just dying to have it. But then you go and buy it and take a huge bite out of it but then it turns out that it tastes horrible?

So after they've actually tasted the burger they're like "eh...I can live without it".
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Old 01-15-2006, 08:57 AM   #22
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that's pretty much it

and the dumb thing is it doesn't even matter how tasty the burger is
it's just a universal rule - once you have something you don't value it

i saw this thing once where 2 women were talking and one asks the other for a tip on how to be attractive to her husband and the other woman goes "don't be married to him"

forget that for the kuffar you don't even have to be married - just together; like there are so many "beautiful" celebrities who other men would kill to be with but their own boyfriends cheat on them- it's like never enough

so i agree with ukht islaami (most of them)

jokes aside i believe it's from shaytan or something- the whole forbidden fruit, any woman besides my wife is attractive thing
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Old 01-15-2006, 09:45 AM   #23
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la hawla wa laa quwwata illa billah!
Man, Islam is so perfect. Why people would wan't to try to wreck it with their emotions is beyond me. From some of these womens actions it seems they are just crazy in love with their husbands beyond their love of Islam and Allah (swt). May Allah (swt) save us from the love of this dunya. Ameen, Ameen! Wullahi to have a strong relationship with Allah (swt) will provide better security to ourselves than loving some one or some thing in this dunya! It is impossible to suffer from depression when our relationship with Allah is complete. May Allah help us to strive for that so that we can become mu'mineen wa muhsineen. AMEEN. Wassalaamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh.
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Old 01-15-2006, 10:03 AM   #24
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I was writting a large comment then I relized that I would hate it if muslims had hate towerds me, I just said "forget it"...lol...The ladys would have a Daniel Aljughaifi bashing thread if I said what I felt.
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Old 01-15-2006, 10:21 AM   #25
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Now they will understand why Islaam says polygamy is part of human necessity:

** Polygamy proposal for Chechen men **
Chechnya has lost so many men to war that survivors should be allowed several wives, its acting PM says.
< http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/1/h...pe/4610396.stm >
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Old 01-15-2006, 04:41 PM   #26
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it probably doesnt really matter but romeo and juliette were married. ive read the play, seen the movie and the opera, and they get married every time :D
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wow liv i never knew that or remembered it!
i thought they killed themselves because they couldn't get married or be together!
wasn't it like the capulets and the montagues were barred from being together or something? unless they had one of those secret elopement type things or whatever

omg that reminds me in high school they made us watch that play - like an old movie version of it made in like the 70's or something and they were all over each other and they had nudity (romeo) and everyone was SOOOO embarassed- damn these people and their idea of "education" :mad:

also wife of zakariyyah- i agree with you about priorities and the bad example for children (especially daughters subhanallah)

but i just want to comment on something in the way you ordered things- this may shock you but i have reason to believe islamically that a woman's duty is more to her husband than her children even - i'm not saying neglect them or don't bring them up right etc.

i just mean i see so many narrations on the rights of the husband and some on children- before everyone gets upset i remember there was some non-muslim psychologist (maybe now i'll get some legitimacy ) saying that same thing and people were like how can you put your marriage before your children?! and the reason was you need to take care of the marriage before it breaks up and causes the children even more greif and i personally believe islam is incredibly careful of protecting a marriage and even keeping it passionate etc. as it is the building block of society (sigh- please don't think i am advocating neglect of the children while pursuing your own pleasures with your spouse- all in proportion) but i think the whole "children first" thing is assumed (by the culture here as well) when in reality if you follow the islamic blueprint (and sometimes we rediscover what islam says versus conventional wisdom) things will inshallah work out better; it's kind of like some people put their all into their kids thinking they are doing something good while neglecting their marriage ("less" of a priority) and then they wonder why they are so unhappy and depressed over their marriage until they can't take it anymore or they become crippled in even caring for their children- so it's good to take care of yourself to an extent so that you have the strength to take care of others
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I was writting a large comment then I relized that I would hate it if muslims had hate towerds me, I just said "forget it"...lol...The ladys would have a Daniel Aljughaifi bashing thread if I said what I felt.

And the brothers would have made a "We love Daniel Aljughaifi" thread, good move though MashaaAllah.
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Old 01-15-2006, 07:09 PM   #29
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daniel, most of the sisters hate me now. But it's good, less fitnah for me. :-D So say what you want to...

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Subhân Allâh



Allâh huma ‘afina min dhâlik



Sisters already know about the risk of polygyny when entering a marriage, so they need to sort out this issue before they agree to this commitment. The way I see it is if you know you couldn’t bear having a co-wife(s) and this would put your mental health in danger, then celibacy would seem like an alternative. At least this way you would only be harming yourself. Some sisters might say “oh well go get a divorce”, but it’s not as simple as that- the issue of divorce is very serious, especially for women. While men may divorce whenever they please (as this is their God-given right), we have to understand a different set of rules apply for us sisters. We can’t just ask for a divorce or khul’ without any good (Islamic) reason as this might land us in Jahnannam, wa na’audhûbillâh min dhâlik. Although immense ghîrah followed by indefinite insanity might constitute a good reason (wa Allâhu ‘A’lam), the point is we already knew this entering the marriage, so we seriously need to deal with issue before agreeing to enslavement (which is basically what marriage is for a woman).



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